Map: ARRTI By: Grimlar

ARRTI

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Author: Grimlar
Map Name: ARRTI
Intended Audience: forever free maps
Submitted On: 2017-12-22 19:54:26
Last Updated On: 2017-12-22 19:54:28

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– Authors Map Description –

A River Runs Through It
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This is a conversion of one of the maps included in the community map pack for DG1.

Its not a faitful reproduction, there are some minor alterations to the map and the missions and scripts for this map are completely different. Hopefully a different challenge.

Explanation.
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The basic map was put together not long after DG2 was launched, but for various reasons it always got put to one side, not being able to include flying aliens was one problem to start with, and I guess other maps appealed more.

Anyway, I finally made inroads into getting the missions/scripts sorted out earlier this year. Eveything was pretty much done until I ran into the 10Mb save file limit problem on the Super Grinder mission. Hence the delayed release.

So, my apologies to anyone hoping for a 100 wave Super Grinder, cutting it down in size was in the end the best way to get the map out to you all to play. I hope that the mission is acceptable as it stands.

For more information on the save file issue, please look at the explanation on the Festive Pumpkin map.
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Scoreboost is not available for any mission.
There are options available to buy on the Command Shuttle on all missions.

The following missions are included:
Story, Story Leaderboard, Story TI, Fixed Resources, Fixed Resources TI, Flood, Flood TI, Hvy 5, Hvy5 TI, SuperGrinder and SuperGrinder TI.

Note: The Story or Campaign mission does not upload the score to the leaderboards. This is a HPE issue and I cannot fix it. For that reason, this map is considered to be a practice map for players who have few if any Tower Upgrade Items. For everyone else please use Story leaderboards for Comp Hard or Story Ti for Open Elite.

All normal missions have been beaten on Competitive Hard. Any TI missions have been beaten on Open Elite by OCD.
When I say beaten, I mean gold medal scores with no cores lost.

Thanks must go to OCD & TNTFTB, who have helped with testing this map. All errors, bugs and balance issues are of course my responsibility not theirs.
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All modes, (ie open, comp no sell etc,) are available for the basic story mission. As scores are not posted to a leaderboard I consider it to be effectively a practice mode.

Missions with a TI added after the name can only be played in open modes and the aliens have a lot more health, it is expected that you will need Tower Items to beat them.
The normal version of the TI mission can only be played in competitive modes.
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If you find any mission too easy on Open Elite, then consider trying the Competitive Hard version of the mission, I am told that it is usually harder. If that is still too

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lukemcking
lukemcking
6 years ago

Thanks for this beautiful new challenge. Took me a while but now i know how to do it 🙂

anst
anst
6 years ago

Complex and fun as always from Grimlar. I managed gold on story mode hard – now it’s time for super grinder 🙂
Thanks a lot !
anst

McB
McB
Reply to  Grimlar
6 years ago

Really just a tiny little little bit. Great work man!

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Got Open Elite Story TI. No cores lost, first try. But just bronze 🙁

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Exactly: First campaign, then Open Elite Story TI. It was really thightly 🙂 Therefore this is a well good balanced map and I like the design very much. Two core houses are everytime a good competition 🙂

Next time I will try Open Elite Story TI competive no sell. And yeah, I get a little idea, this could be very very hard to master…

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Sorry, I was a little confused about the 100s of modes. I mean campaign competive on elite. Really hard, I lost my cores after 18 or 19 waves. No chance for me, dude. At the beginning of my commentares I just mean campaign open elite was a little bit to easy. Because this mode is my beloved one on every map. All the othe modes on elite on your map a definetely not too easy, for example campaign competive. It seems to be unbeatable. I got no idea to master this mode, only to defend just one core house and to build mý defenso just for that. But so is it impossible to get bronze, I think.

So thanx for your offer to set Story TI harder, but its not neccessary. Because I just first want to try silver at least. And I know I’ll get it! 🙂

So put your time maybe in a following new map. We need such builders like you! One year ago I’ve tried to build an own one, but the programming of the waves was one point I’m getting mad. I wasn’t able to script it in a right way. Maybe I’ll try it a second time… It is possible to seize the damn small 3D-Window in the Level-Editor much bigger? I can’t see anything on my 15″ Notebook! 🙂

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Thank you for the full explanation. Now I understand the principles of the modes much more. And sorry for my imperfect english, I’m not a native speaker. But I really try my best. Should I write in my language? Because of the not so bad translating function of this site. However, thanx for the hints!

Maybe I’ll try to construct a new own map with the editor in the next days. Thanx for your offer to help! I’ll coming back to you when I really need help, probably on steam.

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Well, I wasn’t lazy the last days and began to build. The level loads succesfully in DG2. Yeah!
Of course, there are some problems. First: the exit and entry spawns won’t work. I got 2 spawn points, one marked as entry one as exit. In DG2 the timer starts and the waves running correctly but not one alien is viewable. Maybe there running in the wrong direction? A second problem is that the mousecursor stops in DG2 at a unvisible border before he could reach all constructions.
Because of my Steam-limitation I can’t send a request to you. But you can. My name is “srkimmi” on steam.

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Yes, it’s me paul.lauter. Steam shows me 2 names…

McB
McB
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

Thanx for your answer. I’ll try to fix the coursor range. There is no blue or orange path, so there is an error by the pathfindung. But I didn’t see any mistake by the alien path. Did the level editor show me where an error could be? This would be nice but I fear there is no showing…

So it were very nice of you to have a look at the map 🙂

OCD
OCD
Reply to  McB
6 years ago

DG1 and DG2 the goal has always been not to just get through and survive but also achieve gold which would mean that the numerous variables in game play have been strategised and elite gold level achieved.

So if its purely difficulty and score isn’t a concern then competitive is the way to go but gold is still the goal.

Competitive Elite will sort out all players.

McB
McB
Reply to  OCD
6 years ago

You’re right. Nothing counts but gold :-).

OCD
OCD
Reply to  OCD
6 years ago

Exactly it’s all about gold 🙂

Here’s an analogy…..If you play a racing game and get to the finish line ‘last’ was it too easy and have you succeeded?

🙂

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
Reply to  Grimlar
6 years ago

Hi again,

Just some quick thoughts, don’t know whether my thinking goes into the right direction.

Looking to the number of downloads I see about 100 players.
Looking to the entries in the leaderboards I can see about 15 different players in total.

My conclusion:
– most of the players failed?
– I cannot see every player in the leaderboards?
– most people play campaign (first mode) which doesn’t have a leaderboard?

If correct assumption is the last case, maybe campaign should be made more difficult to challenge the majority of the people?
And all the other modes just nice add-ons?

OCD
OCD
Reply to  Jolly Roger
6 years ago

Hey Jolly Roger,
There is a bug in DG2 which deletes players scores.
“• one issue with DG2 it has a bug that has never been addressed where players scores dont register on leaderboard….I am one of them, so no matter what score i get it wont show….i have a work around to fix it but couldnt be bothered as this will be about the 10th time i have had this happen.”

This map I have played all Ti modes numerous times and gotten gold open elite and I dont show up on leaderboard. If I go to previous maps that I have played I also don’t exist. I have 2415hours in DG2 and over half of that play time I don’t exist on any mode.
Some maps that have over 500 downloads, if you check leaderboards there might be 20 players max show.

I have contacted HPE numerous, numerous times in the past about this bug to get a zero response.
HPE have one of the best tower defense games out there and they put zero after care into it. zero.

anst
anst
Reply to  Grimlar
6 years ago

My way of playing DG2 is to play on hard mode and just the open modes with tower upgrades. I only compete against myself and often I play without thinking about the score at all – just making fun paths for the aliens and inventing new ways of dealing with them. I like to try to get gold on hard mode but I don’t like to fiddle with adapting my setup to fit the waves perfectly, so I will never get really high scores.
I have a lot of fun this way and thanks to Sharky and Gimlar and others I will have fun for many more years !

Thanks !
anst
P.S. One beautiful day I might even try Elite mode 🙂

McB
McB
6 years ago

A huge thank you! A very good map. A relative balanced competition and a very nice design. I’ve worked hard at Campaign Open Elite not to lost just only one core. Ok, I’ve done it by the first try and so it is right the map could be a little little bit mor harder.

Bauhaus
Bauhaus
6 years ago

Thanks for the new map Grimlar and also a Merry Christmas 🙂

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
6 years ago

Thank you very much for bringing this to live!
(unfortunately a but too easy, even on elite – succeeded the first try)

Merry Christmas to everyone!

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
Reply to  Grimlar
6 years ago

Campaign Open Elite
(honestly don’t know the difference between all modes; I always play the first one only)

OCD
OCD
Reply to  Jolly Roger
6 years ago

Hi Jolly Roger,
Can you please play ‘Story Ti Elite’ and post a screen shot of your set up and end score showing Gold medal as I checked the leaderboard and I couldnt find you on any mode.
Once you complete it then the challenge is ‘Story Competitive Elite’.

I think you will find Story Competitive Elite a big challenge.

Cant wait to see it
Cheers

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
Reply to  OCD
6 years ago

Ok, now I played “Story – Leaderboards”, competitive, normal. Succeeded with gold and 32,470,142 points.
But what about a table of scores to compare with other players??
Where can I view this? I never noticed anything like this anywhere.
(or maybe my account doesn’t have the properties)

OCD
OCD
Reply to  Jolly Roger
6 years ago

on the leaderboard it will show your score compared to who has played that mode so if you check out competitive hard grimlar is there with a gold if you want to challenge him and on story ti elite i see you with a silver. good work 🙂

• one issue with DG2 it has a bug that has never been addressed where players scores dont register on leaderboard….I am one of them, so no matter what score i get it wont show….i have a work around to fix it but couldnt be bothered as this will be about the 10th time i have had this happen.

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
Reply to  OCD
6 years ago

Now 35,575,896 points.
But unfortunately I still don’t understand where I can see the table of players.
Where do I have to click??
Or is it in the web browser? Any link?

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
Reply to  OCD
6 years ago

Or do I have to make the other player(s) a “friend” before?
Isn’t there a global table where I can see all the players?

Jolly Roger
Jolly Roger
Reply to  Grimlar
6 years ago

Thank you very much, now I found it.
Very inconvenient (because I understand that you have to leave the map you are playing to go home to the main menu – and then clicking through all the options instead of selecting in drop down menus), but anyway interesting.
Let’s see whether I can find some time in the next days to enter the top in all of the different modes. 😉

OCD
OCD
6 years ago

Hey Grimlar,
Thank you for putting the time into making another great map for us to play.

Merry xmas, hope you have a good time.

Cheers from Australia 🙂

Earth_Here
Earth_Here
6 years ago

THANKs and Merry Christmas ;-))